tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30114385.post3439866647648105135..comments2023-12-20T08:35:04.633+00:00Comments on Lingua Frankly: An unfunny jokeTitchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03003350618976942468noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30114385.post-23534503828932578782013-10-29T22:17:06.414+00:002013-10-29T22:17:06.414+00:00Very good indeed 'ille. You absolutely nailed ...Very good indeed 'ille. You absolutely nailed it.<br /><br />Everytime I hear or see a spectacularly non-fluent learner self-described as "fluent", I think: another batch of native speakers alienated!<br /><br />The language is being utterly devalued, by people who think they can be fluent after a year's study, or even just a couple of weeks at SMO in the summer. An attitude eagerly encouraged by the dim-witted Gaelic establishment.<br /><br />Math dhà-rìribh!Neil McRaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03269404612142829804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30114385.post-9703346680047575742011-12-26T20:50:27.692+00:002011-12-26T20:50:27.692+00:00I like Scottish Gaelic's (and I can only assum...I like Scottish Gaelic's (and I can only assume Irish's) concept of ownership. I think of those great prepositional pronouns "agam, leam, orm, nam".<br /><br />Tha mi'n dochas gu'm bi latha, nuair 's urrain dhomh a radh le cinnt: Tha Gaidhlig agam. <br /><br />Ach cha bhi mi riamh innis ri duine sam bith gu bheil 's e Gaidhlig leam. Tha eagal orm gu'm bi mi nam amadainn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30114385.post-45228153847910216972011-12-26T11:23:14.161+00:002011-12-26T11:23:14.161+00:00The thing is you can never get to the same level o...The thing is you can never get to the same level of ability as a native.<br /><br />I was amazed at how quickly my Spanish deteriorated once I left Edinburgh for Skye. Coming back at Christmas I was just making lots of mistakes. My Spanish was probably stronger 6 months ago than my Gaelic will ever be, but I will never really "own" the language.<br /><br />I will always feel like a guest in someone else's house.Titchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03003350618976942468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30114385.post-15755583567116299762011-12-23T20:28:57.447+00:002011-12-23T20:28:57.447+00:00I must say or feumaigh mi radh, that this shook me...I must say or feumaigh mi radh, that this shook me to the core, myself being (to use your suggested term) a language learner.<br /><br />You're right in your estimation that learners can sometimes come on a little strong to the point of being nuisances. And we would do well to have a little of your suggested etiquitte added to our textbooks under the heading "How to be a gracious learner".<br /><br />That being said All languages belong to us. It's only a matter of ability, which determines our effectivness in each language. Example: You need not be hearing impaired to use sign language.<br /><br />I do accept the point you're trying to make.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com