tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30114385.post7532494864586437855..comments2023-12-20T08:35:04.633+00:00Comments on Lingua Frankly: Expository vs Naturalistic Language ExamplesTitchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03003350618976942468noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30114385.post-73674536535836142021-08-04T10:18:39.561+01:002021-08-04T10:18:39.561+01:00Congratulations on your ability to express what I ...Congratulations on your ability to express what I have always thought so clearly, Niall. I have always found that using the students' native language (Italian in my case) allows me to teach a far wider range of structures and vocabulary than I would be able to if I used English alone. Lewis Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17218793859269835948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30114385.post-34400460028525641012010-12-02T17:34:46.916+00:002010-12-02T17:34:46.916+00:00Fasulye,
Yes, they are negative examples. Nowhere...Fasulye,<br />Yes, they are negative examples. Nowhere did I say that dialogues were bad -- my point was that there is a tendency to talk about dialogues as a whole and to fail to examine the principles used to write genuinely useful dialogues.<br /><br />To me, your example is actually quite unnatural, and it's not uncommon to see dialogues like that in many courses -- often a Colloquial or TY course will do the same thing.<br /><br />I note several clear expository features in you dialogue -- contrasting of <i>thanks</i> and <i>thank you</i>, repetition of <i>how are you</i>, repetition of <i>I am fine</i> with addition of <i>also</i>. These all seem a little forced to me.<br /><br />Personally, I don't think dialogues are suitable for the first lesson of any course, but there's a whole other post that I could write about that (and will)....Titchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03003350618976942468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30114385.post-86234270113870151572010-11-20T16:09:17.177+00:002010-11-20T16:09:17.177+00:00What you define as expositary language are the neg...What you define as expositary language are the negative examples of unnatural language usage in textbooks. Especially in beginner texts of old textbooks you can find such language usage. But it's possbile to create "natural" texts also on a beginner's level. For example my textbooks of the "Einstieg Dänisch", "Einstieg Türkisch" series present dialogues which seem to be taken from real situations. Just to quote the very simple dialogue of the first Danish unit:<br /><br />B: Hello Sandra!<br />S: Hello Bo!<br />B: Welcome to Copenhagen!<br />S: Thank you. How are you?<br />B: Thanks, I'm fine. An how are you?<br />S. I am also fine. What a pleasure to see you again!<br />B. Yes, that's what I also think. <br /><br />To me such a dialogue sounds "natural", even if only a very limited vocabulary and grammar is used in this first unit.<br /><br />FasulyeFasulyehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17760929188490295948noreply@blogger.com